Becoming Free: A conversation about impact, worth, busyness and how we might relate to work, time and contribution in more sustainable and meaningful ways.

Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello everyone and welcome to the new evening alternative to Netflix. Well, I don’t know if it’s going to be that good because anything like that, Netflix TV can be very compelling, but you’re here and for many of you, I know it’s evening time, so welcome to you. Please let me know that you can, can you? Can you see me? Can you hear me on the chat? Let me know. Let me know you’re alive, you’re kicking, and you’re ready for this session. Okay. Oh, I’m hearing there’s an echo, is that right? We’ve got an echo, echo, echo Kat looks like it’s you, baby. So not to put any, you know, blame on you, but let’s log off, look back on again. That normally works. Or maybe it’s a Hawaii thing, considering that’s where you are. I don’t know. Anyway, welcome to you. This is the Third and final part of the Becoming free freedom series The first part focused on health and body and how we live in our bodies, and our physical health and our relationship with it. The second one last week focused on money, financial, how we feel about money, our relationship with money, the data with regard to women and money And today we are focusing on being busy and our relationship with work. All right. So any of you who find yourself perhaps a little overworked or overwhelmed or Too much work at times or lots of times, this is the session for you. All right, this is not your quick fix. I’m going to give you five things to do in the next 24 h and the whole world is going to be solved. This is more of a Deeping meaningful this evening, a conversation that I hope will get you thinking and feeling differently. I want to also give you more insights, more information, more research and data, particularly with regards to women, hours, work, workplace, time But this is not a like time management or productivity webinar. All right. This is more of a, I don’t know, like inquiries. It’s not so heavy. Just relax and sit back and have your cup of tea or glass of wine or whatever it is And make a few notes, and maybe really think about how you can take away a couple of things that I’ve talked about today and actually use them for yourself, all right? So Who has been with us for all three sessions, welcome back. This is your first session, and perhaps you have heard about it from someone else, then welcome. And there are the recordings are available on the ASPIRE website Where you can look under products, and there’s, like, you can download the recordings for free. So if you want to see session one and session two, you can do it. And this session is being recorded, so for those of you that are watching this webinar at some point in the future, then welcome to you, and it’s great that you managed to get yourself to watch the recording because Not everyone does. All right, so thank you very much for being here. I would like to start with a question which is really about our impact, our worth, our busyness, and our contribution. So I want you to Just start asking yourself the question, what kind of relationship do you want with your work And that would be more in the realms of your aspirations of how you would really love perhaps your ideal career, workplace, work day, level of workload to be And you sort of where are you, so what is the aspiration? Where are you now with that? And you know what is it that you would really like to see happen and what are perhaps some of the steps to get there? I have no doubt at all in my mind that there would be some things that I might say to you today that you will say to me, oh, I know that, I heard that before, and that’s fine and good, but often we know things and we kind of know it logically or analytically In our mind, but we’re not always putting into practice or putting it into practice in an inconsistent fashion. And so the coach in me will always be asking you to think about how you up your game in terms of your implementation of these practical ideas and the things that you know you should be doing, and then if you are already doing them, to create more

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consistent and enjoyable patterns, because we can also be consistent in things, but then it’s, you know, we fall off the wagon, it’s not really very enjoyable, we feel like it’s a chore, so be able to have good habits is really the key. And I will say as well that these things are not easy. If they were easy, everyone would be doing them. I wouldn’t be doing a webinar on it. There wouldn’t be 1,000,000 things on Instagram or LinkedIn or in your company or wherever it is, and books you can read. So these things are definitely not easy. So you can also perhaps give yourself a little, you know, not such a hard time that we’re all trying to make changes. And the more that we can all make little changes Lots of people, times Little changes equals change the world. Yes, why not? I feel like, I mean, I’m in and out of it sometimes, depending on what’s going on in the world and in my life, but I’ve always had a deeper knowing and a mission that I am here in some way, and even if it’s in my little way to change the world and make a positive contribution to the world, and particularly the world of work for women. So, anyone else feel like that? Like you’re here to make a difference, you’re here to contribute in some way? If you do, then you are very much definitely in the right place Okay. So who finds themselves very busy these days Or are you noticing sort of increased level of busyness around you? Now, I know that this can be a positive thing in some ways that it can mean that we’re more engaged and we’re being asked to do things. We’ve got a lot to do. But really, I want to talk about it from the perspective today why BUSI has become a problem And not a badge. Okay, because I think we have many organization in an organizational context, in a corporation context, even for many women that start their own business like I did or start their own social enterprise You know, they’re finding that we bring habits from our, let’s say, old world into our new world and find ourselves getting over committed and over busy. So I want to talk about that in the respect of, first of all, culture, organizational culture, the cultural reality. So, I don’t live in completely in la-la land and everything can be perfect Because organizations, as we know, are structured, even if that organisation is your school or your community, or your corporation, or your charity, organizations are really structured to reward time spent, you know, and that’s often time spent in the office and being present, and all of those things, and you know even though many of us can work from home or have hybrid options now, that, you know, be in the office scenario is still, is still very much there. So longer hours And being in the office Can still be directly associated with commitment and promotion, and this is more acute in more traditional industries, in, let’s say, sort of more old-fashioned cultures Often, the more senior you get, some of these things can apply. So even if your work is, you know enjoyable to you and purposeful to you, we’re seeing burnout rates increasing, which I find really interesting that burnout rates are increasing Even though so many of us can work from home now Now, what do you think about that? What’s that all about? So there’s that pressure of traveling and, you know, like having to wear the right thing, or God forbid, get your nails done or any stupid like that, you know, where you have to do stuff, where you feel like maybe you have to do things to look a certain way or do it in a certain way. There’s all that pressure of Being present in the office and what time people are leaving, and the rest of it. But that’s… a lot of that is perhaps disappearing with working from home, but we’re still seeing that pressure. So, you know, you’re not maybe at the water cooler to have that conversation, or You’re not there for those informal politics that happen or those unvisible, invisible rules. So and I find that a lot of us, when we’re at home a lot and we’re perhaps more on our own, and I see this with women that are starting growing their own businesses

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that we spend so much time in our heads that that also becomes a place of anxiety. So we’ve got those organizational cultures around us, but we’ve also got the culture that’s within our own head, and perhaps even within our own homes, all right So I want to say that this is a cultural reality before I start getting into, here are some of the things that you can do, because In the 25 years I’ve been doing this, whenever I try and do any kind of webinar about time, like time management, productivity, how to manage your workload or workday, how to run meetings. I get the most, like, it’s… I can feel it, the most pushback that comes back because The strongest sense is that I would like to implement some of these ideas, Sam. I would like to be able to do it this way, but it’s too difficult where I work, or that wouldn’t be accepted, or I might be seen as less committed or not promotion material or whatever it is, if I say no, or I don’t have that level of workload, certainly when I Travel and speak, and I haven’t been doing that this year, which has been really quite different and more peaceful year for me, but when I’m traveling and I’m out and about, and I’m, you know, maybe doing an event or speaking in a… in a company Inevitably, it’s a big building, and, you know, you’re going up in the… up and down in the… in the lifts and the elevators, and, you know, I… I’m always listening to people, and you can hear people say, hi, how are you? And what is it that people say mostly they say, oh, in England say, oh, not bad, you know, or in America, oh. Great, fantastic. They’re not really, but they’re saying it, but, you know, you hear a lot of people say, oh, how are you? I’m busy. I’m busy. I’m busy. And then the person replies with what? I’m busy. Yeah, yeah, I’m busy too. And it’s like this whole busy conversation happens. And because could you just imagine for a moment if someone said to you, hi, how are you? Oh, you said, hi, how are you? And they said, I’m busy, and you said, oh, I’m not busy. In fact, I’m ultimately protecting my time, saying no, being respectful of my boundaries, and I only have two meetings on today. Like, can you imagine? They were like, what the… what is going on with her? They would probably be quite Envious, maybe think that you’ve lost the plot or something because these kind of conversations, it’s not seen as a badge of honor if you don’t have much on, you know, if you don’t have back-to-back meetings or maybe we associate it with value and commitment. And so these are some of the things I want to start to Slowly but surely unravel in our heads and start to think in a different way. Just because this is the way it is, just because our organizations have done this for maybe some cases, hundreds of years. doesn’t mean that it needs to continue, and it actually really just takes one person or another person, and slowly these new ideas and movements start to catch on. And I mean, think about it, 50 years ago 30 years ago, even 20 years ago, no, 2001, when I started Aspire, I don’t think the words diversity and inclusion were on anybody’s radar. When I would say women in the workplace, they would look at me like, you know, what are you talking about And I would say coaching, they would ask what team, or you drive a coach, you know. You know, so a lot of things that were not in our thinking, even in the last few years are now in our thinking, because someone said, I’m going to start talking about these, and they’re going to start becoming more mainstream and become more mainstream ideas, and it’s, you know, it’s not a new thing anymore. So, I just invite you to have that and see yourself, perhaps, as a As an agent for a change What do you think about that? 42% of women report burnout significantly higher than men senior women report more frequent burnout, particularly at higher levels Women carry additional invisible workload, emotional, not just emotional labor and often housework and

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could be children or eldercare, but also so many women I see and quite frankly, I don’t see that many men doing it. So many women are also carrying an additional job at work. Yes, so yes, they are the the head of something, or the VP of something else, or the manager of something else, and that’s their day job, but they’re also part of the women’s network, or they’re heading up a D&I initiative, or they’re doing something for corporate social responsibility and young girls in their community, or they’re volunteering, you know, they’re heading up a second job within their current job, which they’re passionate about, and they want to see that change, and that’s great, but at the same time, you know, trying to do two jobs is It’s hard. It’s hard for anybody. And what is that saying? If you need something done Complete the sentence for me, somebody on the chat. If you need something done Ask a busy woman. Yes Yes, we’re famous for it, aren’t we? Because we are so competent, we are so intelligent, we are so brilliant, we are so able to hold multiple things at the same time. It’s certainly part of our gift I’m not one to take any of that away from us. I do think, though, that sometimes we do need to monitor it a bit, do an audit, and really ask ourselves some good questions, which is what I am asking you to do today, all right? Also And I noticed this with my work with women who are working in medicine, particularly as doctors or academic researchers in health and medicine, that they believe, and I’ve heard this anecdotally And I now understand that there are also peer reviews studied on it, that women often believe that they have to work twice as hard, twice as hard as their male counterparts to be able to be successful and be promoted. So that’s a lot of extra bloody layers for us to have to deal with Now, I know younger women sometimes don’t believe that this is a thing anymore and it’s nothing that they have to deal with, so it’s gone undercover in a number of ways, but it’s still there very predominantly, even if we do call it now unconscious bias rather than actual discrimination. So What the data is actually showing us is that women often receive higher performance ratings in our work than our male colleagues, but are yet 14% Less likely to be promoted. So, women are related… are rated lower on potential as much more subjective And men are 20 to 30% more likely to be labeled high potential even with a similar performance. So advancement isn’t necessarily about working harder, although we believe it is, it’s part of it. It’s about being if Are looking to advance in a large organization, it’s about being seen as leadership material, okay? Being seen as leadership material. And of course, that’s completely subjective and depends on who is asking that question And who’s in the review meetings that is making the decision on what leadership potential really is Right. So also there is something called the broken rung. The broken rung where for every 100 women promoted to manager, only 87% of women are promoted. And it often is in the lower levels of management. All right. So What happens is, as well, if women are taking time out for family or education or different things they or even illness, taking time out for and have to come back, then that broken rung is broken, right? It’s quite hard to sort of really start rising in the ranks So, I want to really make this clear That this is Not an issue about women’s drive and ambition. It’s about the environment around us. And I just think this is really really important, because when we are seen as less ambitious or less committed, there’s the tendency to question ourselves a bit, am I? Like, what does that mean? Do I want that? I don’t know

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Or to be sent on some kind of program to kind of program you to be more ambitious and want to have this perhaps senior level life that may or may not be for us So busy disease. Let’s talk about, let’s talk about this This concept of busy disease, I came up with some years ago because I have noticed that for, I am completely and utterly guilty of this myself and a big part of why I’m spending this year A lot less busy, and I have to tell you that got an itchy nose, so I have to tell you that being less busy comes with Really wonderful things. Like, I get to spend more time with myself, I get to spend more time focused on my health, I’ve lost weight, I’m healthier, my blood pressure’s come down, I’m, you know, all these good things, all right? I get to have more time and space with family and friends and All of that, fabulous things that only you could only wish for. All right. It’s made me look very acutely at the work I do and how much I charge, and how I still make sure that I, you know, financially can do the things that need to be done as the main earner in my household But it’s also come with this sense of, like maybe it’s an unease An unease, a restlessness. I should be I should be back to back meetings like I used to be. I should be traveling and doing event, event, event. Because That is how what I’ve realized is how I would measure my Worth, I would measure my impact, and I would measure my contributions, so if those things aren’t there anymore, how do I measure them? And so rather than looking outside for those measurements, I have been forced And I’m a big believer in, you know, pushing yourself to do things that are uncomfortable. I’ve been forced into more internal, intrinsic measurements of Worth and impact. And so Being less busy, if it’s something you’re doing or something you started getting into be aware that it comes with a huge amount of fabulous benefits, which I really encourage, but it also comes with a period of time when you’re sort of working through quite a lot of deep self-reflection. So there are 3 types. Did anyone resonate with that, by the way? Tricia is saying this resonates with me. Yes, we’re so conditioned to be busy, and it’s quite a difficult, incredibly difficult habit to break, because also, you know, there’s a lot of outside judgment, like, oh, you know, really? How’s that going, you know? So, you know, I think if you can, keep it to yourself, at least for the first few months, maybe, until you’re used to it. So there are 3 types of busy disease, okay? So, you can tell me whether you believe you have Type 1, type 2, type 3, or maybe a combination. Type 1 is your sort of classic Are you ready? 3 types of busy disease, okay? So wake up, wake up. First one Work overload, like, genuine work overload. There’s just too much to do. All right. So this is organizational role-based, what your company or business is going through. And Maybe you’ve got a manager that’s just over delegates, or you know doesn’t role model very well or something, and there’s just way too much to do. Okay, this is the first of a busy disease. It was a reality. But what we know is that overworking And trying to get so much done and the volume, and I remember being there, right, this volume of things that need to be done and people say, oh, you should delegate. Oh, you should say no. But it’s It just keeps coming. All right. So work overload reality coming at you is the first classic I’m just too busy disease. Okay, is that you? Of course, it is very much influenced by the culture and structure around you that we have just spoken about, and we know research will tell us, data will tell you, but we’ve got enough data, we’re just not, we don’t have a data problem, we’ve got a change problem Overwork leads to diminishing returns. We know that more hours does not equal more output. We know that, yet it keeps coming tsunami style. Is that you? Okay, just pure

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work, too much work Number 2, now this one is going to take a little bit more reflection. The second time of busy disease is workaholic workaholic tendencies. So this is more psychological and behavioral, but also stemming from how we grew up. My dad was always work hard at school, son, work hard, work hard, work hard. He wasn’t like take a break. You know we grow up This is societal expectation. Maybe we, you know, so we’ve received these messages again outside in and it’s driving our behavior. But when work becomes more driven by Adrenaline reward, or even emotional escape Then it’s something that we can look at and work Workerism, can’t even say it, is increasingly being recognized as an actual behavioral addiction. I know we don’t really talk about that too much out there in the world because there’s other, of course, big, critical, important addictions out there But I am and have seen this more and more and more. And what happens is we use work as a way to perhaps compensate for things that are not going on in our life as we would like them to, or things that are really difficult. Now, look, I totally get this Let me tell you this, in all truth and transparency, and hopefully to make someone feel better, when I had my first son, yeah, now he’s about to turn 18 and a couple of weeks When I had him, the next day, the next day, I did my emails. Yes, I did. Woo, who’s going to judge that one? I did my email. Why did I do my emails? The day after I’d given birth Because the only thing that I can feel like I could control. He would sleep, he wouldn’t eat, I was hormonal, da-da-da. I did my emails and for about 1 hour I was so happy. Oh, aspire people I love So it’s not always a bad thing. All right, although I remember I did get a lot of judgment. Why are you on your email? You just had a baby. And I was like, don’t judge me. It’s something I really want to do. And for my second baby, actually, I actually told people ahead of time, you’re likely going to see me on emails right away. Don’t judge. It just helps me But when it becomes too much, it can be linked to burnout, stress, and health problems. And also it distracts us from addressing some of the things that We need to address. It starts to function like a drug and giving us some relief and recognition of control and it has significant highs and significant lows. Now, the problem is as well is those significant highs are great, like any drug, but those significant lows are really low Because we have we have attached I’ve done it. I still do it. We have attached so much value to our work. This is who I am. This is my identity. This is what I’m about. So if we’re not getting the recognition or the value or then it will question our confidence and identity. So that’s the second type, okay, which is Workholic Anyone, anyone Resonate Maybe we should do, I don’t even know if there’s a workholics program. Like, you know, like the 12 steps for alcohol. I think we really, maybe that’s something we need to find out about or even Establish Without judgment. Can you imagine that? No judgment, this is what it is. The third type Now, these are all interconnected, but the third type is Over people pleasing, over people pleasing. So this is relational Whereas Good girls and good women, we want people to be happy and that’s a good thing. I don’t want to take that away from us because pleasing people is one of the greatest gifts we can give on the planet to people. We like to please people It’s nice, it’s a wonderful sense of ourselves, but when it’s too much, when we’re plea… here’s the distinction. When we’re pleasing people at the expense of ourselves Are you with me? You understand? So we’re doing so much for others that we are paying a price. We might be paying a price in our health or our motivation, and very much often from a work context in our work overload. So we’re saying yes too often, we’re not saying boundaries We’re linking contribution to being liked, to other people being happy, and so it’s really rooted in approval, seeking and social conditioning, all right? And so for many of us.

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Saying, no, I’m not going to do that, or no, I can’t do that by this week, it’s going to be next week, or here’s a boundary, or I don’t like the way you’re speaking to me, or let’s not do it this way, or, you know, that kind of pushback. For many women, they… we will see it as a cost perhaps even to our careers. We may say it’s career-limiting, we may think that that person’s not going to like me if they’re not going to like me, then I’m not going to do that, all right? In fact, it’s one of the biggest reasons I see that women do not speak up Do not speak publicly on stage and in talks and on podcasts and the rest of it because of the over need for approval, the over need for approval. And so the cost is too high if people won’t like them. In understanding that many, many, many people do not like my work, don’t like me, don’t like what I’m doing, don’t agree with it, is very freeing for me. I’m still working on it, but it’s incredibly freeing because I’m not using that as a blocker to stop me doing things because I’m doing it because I want to make a difference, and I want to help people, and I’ll help who I can. All right So of those 3 types What do we have? The work overload realities, number one, the workholic is number two, and the people-pleasing is number three, which is yours? Which is yours, or which combination is yours? Because once you understand what yours is, you can start working on it, alright? Stop judging yourself, and you can say, okay, alright, here I am, and you must never judge yourself anyway because this is so So important. It’s not you. You weren’t born a workaholic. You weren’t born a people pleaser. These aren’t genetic I don’t think they’re genetic. Are there any doctors in the house? Are these genetic? I don’t think these are genetic. They aren’t genetic. They’re not born. This isn’t nature. This is nurture. This is complete nurture. So we learn it that has got to mean, doesn’t it Or have I completely lost the clock today that it can be unlearned Can be unlearned and something new can emerge, something new can be and can change when we shift from busy, busy, busy To more conscious work. Alright, so that’s where I want you to Focus, okay? Busy? No. Impact. Yes. Hard work No. Meaningful contribution. Yes. Automatic responses. No, conscious, conscious choice. Yes, restriction. No balance Yes. Yeah So let’s pause. Notice how are you feeling? About all of this And You really sometimes a lot of the times when people start to change their behaviors A large percentage of that change is through awareness. Oh, I didn’t really think about it like that before, Sam. Oh, I didn’t really understand it. Then we start to think about consequences Oh, if I carry on this way Here’s a Scenario of what could happen. This is how it could negatively impact my health. This is how it could negatively impact my career. This is how it could negatively impact how I feel about myself and my confidence This is how it can negatively impact my performance and effectiveness and contribution People go into this stage. So something you might start to consider. Then they start to go into a third stage, which is they start to, and I would really invite you to accelerate yourself into it, is a stage where It is more I just want to close. I have some couple of notes open. I just want to close those now so I can really connect with you. They go into a stage where they are envisaging this dream or vision of how things could be for themselves. So can you imagine a day where your workload was a lot more manageable or even easy for you, and you were okay with that, and you were still being rewarded in terms of your financial needs or your health needs, and this is where we did the other two webinars, health and then financial, and now busyness and time, so you can start to bring these

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This three-legged stool, if you like that you want to sit on and for it to be really stable And certainly In all the years that I’ve been doing this One of the things I… if not the thing that I love most, is encouraging women to dream big. And dream big Can, yes, it can absolutely be to get that promotion and meet the person of your dreams or be really healthy and lose weight or the house you want, or these absolutely is It’s often these things But also increasingly. women’s visions are not really about ourselves. They’re about other people. Yes, we’re in it, but they’re about The kind of family you want to have or the friend group or how you want your organizational culture or business or charity or not-for-profit or government body or law firm or bank or finance ecosystem to be And that is much more has much more complexity to it It is a vision of change that is not only focused on self, but is also focused on others. And so that’s the work that I really do to help you to create change, not only in yourself but also in the society around you. There are many of us that Feel helpless, or even hopeless at the direction or trajectory of the planet, we see the wars and the climate and the levels of poverty and levels of education, and the political systems, and we ask What could possibly be done? Why me? I really want to encourage you to know that even what you might consider to be the simplest of actions. So for example, you might go away from today and start looking at your workload, or maybe you might do An audit of your week, you know, where you keep a notebook beside your computer or whatever you’re doing, and you audit when you’re doing work that you love, and then you write down perhaps when you’re doing work, when you’re busy and overwhelmed, and, you know, you take a look at it, and you start making a couple little changes. When you do that, all right, you are not only doing that for yourself and the ripple that it has around you But you’re doing it! And that’s going to sound very grandiose, but you’re doing it for all of humanity, right? Because if we all start making these small, incremental changes over time, and suddenly they are… there are seismic shifts In how government, social, political, academic, business, corporate systems run Now, I am saying this because I really want you to go away and make some more changes, you know, do an audit, maybe speak to other people about it, maybe look at these three levels, maybe ask yourself some good questions. Am I a people pleaser? Am I a workholic? You know, is there just too much work in my organization? Where do we need to adjust and make changes so that the resources are better allocated among people? I can’t tell you what it is you need to do. I think you probably already know, but I’m encouraging you not only to do it and to enjoy yourself when you’re doing it, and to review your progress, and to give yourself rewards and all those things that work for motivation, but also to understand that as you’re doing these small things Even if it feels really lonely and like you’re the only person doing it and everyone thinks you’ve completely lost the plot, you haven’t, because there are all of us here and who have been part of this community who are silently behind you, cheering you on and going, well done, thank God, you know you’ve done it This gives other people permission This is actually what leadership is. It is. This is what leadership is. Leadership is, you know, not going on the same path as everyone else Gone on a different path and being proud of that and being authentic about it, and communicating that to other people, and doing it for good, and lo and behold, there’ll be other people on the path with you, or people behind you, and you’re like, okay

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I’m not on my own. All right. So my final thought as we complete this webinar, Freedom Series is this Be a dandelion. What do I mean by this? dandelions. What do you know about dandelions, anybody? Dandelions are the most Beautiful and resilient of plants When I was a little girl I used to love getting the dandelions, you know, when they’re at the seed stage, they call it the clock And you blow them And what do you do? You make a wish and then those seeds all disperse. Did you know that dandelion seeds can go hundreds of miles Hundreds of miles They go off into the wind. And you know I always used to wish for when I was a little girl Always to have a long, happy, and healthy life So I wish that for you to be a resilient manifesto of Your dreams be a dandelion. Thank you so much for being part of the Freedom series. Hope you’ve enjoyed it, and now maybe go back and watch the webinars again and maybe share them with some other people who you think are also our fellow dandelions Big fields and beautiful yellow flowers Who wouldn’t want that I look forward to seeing you again and next webinar I’m doing is June 16th Aspire your wonderful impossible dream, so I’m really looking forward to that. We’re looking at manifestation and how to create and make your impossible dreams Happen, alright? So, June 16th, day before my birthday, so you can… you can help me celebrate my 55th birthday, coming up on June 16th. If you haven’t signed up and you would like to, it’s on the Aspire website And you can do that and feel free to bring, you know, bring some other people along, bring your mom, bring your dad, bring your sister, bring your brother, bring your cousin bring your… bring your work colleagues, bring your next door neighbor, watch it together. Why not? So thank you very much for being part of this. A few of you asked you, yes, I know a few of you have asked me about ongoing support. Well, of course, there is the the if more events coming up This year, I am doing more one-to-one coaching work. I have a wonderful little set of one-to-one coaching clients that I work with and you know you get a dose of me every two weeks for an hour and we strategize and we come up with ideas and we work through your challenges And then you put things into practice in between those two weeks, and you get emails from me saying, have you done it? Have you done it? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? And things like that. And it’s all very wonderful. So if you’re interested in coaching with me, then drop me a line. We can chat about it and see whether It would be a good fit So thank you, dandelions See you. Auntie Lawrence. See you again soon and thank you very much for being part of this series. And I hope to see you again soon. Thank you, thank you. Bye, bye bye.

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